tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6546468339418636140.post5024404743893040614..comments2024-01-12T04:58:49.069-05:00Comments on Kyrie, Eleison!: Finding Intimacy With God (and some of the difficulties we face in finding it)Anastasia Theodoridishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16092531121989260111noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6546468339418636140.post-57127221847098661162010-03-24T15:56:48.531-04:002010-03-24T15:56:48.531-04:00Yes, our individual experience is always to be que...Yes, our individual experience is always to be questioned. That's what our spiritual fathers (or mothers) are for. That's what the Church is for, with her 20 centuries of corporate experience.Anastasia Theodoridishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16092531121989260111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6546468339418636140.post-47720195630846208702010-03-24T15:17:02.181-04:002010-03-24T15:17:02.181-04:00Indeed. How much of it was fostered? I question th...Indeed. How much of it was fostered? I question that about my own teen years. I take comfort in knowing that my experience will always be fallible, but the transcendence of God over my experience is a steadying truth.Kaciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06374573594800663980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6546468339418636140.post-72905446863870379052010-03-23T09:29:46.723-04:002010-03-23T09:29:46.723-04:00Kacie, I personally know people, like my dear next...Kacie, I personally know people, like my dear next-door neighbors, who undeniably have true intimacy with God and who are not Orthodox. One of the reasons I was attracted to your blog was, your own intimacy with Him shows through. NO, we do not believe you MUST be Orthodox to have that intimacy.<br /><br />We do believe, though, and we converts experience this, that this true intimacy is best fostered within Holy Orthodoxy. One reason for this, Orthodox doctrine supports it, whereas the intimacy we may have had with God before, we now find was more in spite of our doctrines. <br /><br />On a side note, to this day I am unable to assess how much of what I experienced as a Protestant was real, as some of it most certainly was, and how much was imaginary, all in my head, as some of it equally certainly was.Anastasia Theodoridishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16092531121989260111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6546468339418636140.post-87177598788492256182010-03-22T21:24:48.843-04:002010-03-22T21:24:48.843-04:00I agree with the gist of what you say here... afte...I agree with the gist of what you say here... after all, when the veil was ripped it was because of the forgiveness of God through the sacrifice of Christ. What it allowed and what it was intended for, though, was to unite the place the worshipers and the One who was being worshiped. Finally - intimacy was and is possible. <br /><br />I suppose I have a question - do you believe this intimacy is possible outside of the Orthodox Church? I agree that often Protestants and Catholics get it wrong, but if some DO understand the relationship between truth and intimacy... can they find it without joining the Orthodox Church?Kaciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06374573594800663980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6546468339418636140.post-9064444167526075592010-03-04T17:16:56.426-05:002010-03-04T17:16:56.426-05:00I'll pray for Dan, too.
Neither of my childre...I'll pray for Dan, too.<br /><br />Neither of my children will darken the door of any church.Anastasia Theodoridishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16092531121989260111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6546468339418636140.post-11549223349192820702010-03-04T13:02:31.914-05:002010-03-04T13:02:31.914-05:00Anam Cara, I will also pray for your son Dan. It ...Anam Cara, I will also pray for your son Dan. It must be heart-breaking.DebDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594843598589340808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6546468339418636140.post-9105353554013843202010-03-03T06:07:04.852-05:002010-03-03T06:07:04.852-05:00WOW! Thank you so much!
I think this whole serie...WOW! Thank you so much!<br /><br />I think this whole series is so amazing. I have it downloaded from iTunes to both my computers and it is on my iPod.<br /><br />We have adult four children. The second wanted to go to a Bible college and become a youth minister. We had never heard of the school before (it is on the west coast and the furthest west we have lived is Kanasa), but one of the youth ministers we knew in Germany had gone there and his brother was on the faculty and we relented and let him go. He came back to Germany to do a summer internship between sophomore and junior years and we saw a change - subtle, but a change. By the time he was a senior, he had "lost his faith" and become agnostic. This is a young man who had been "on fire for the Lord" as the Evangelicals would say since he was in junior high school.<br /><br />His explanation is that he didn't really see a difference at the school between those who were Christian and those who weren't. He also has a hard time accepting some of the Protestant doctrines (he grew up with them, but his eyes were opened). <br /><br />I converted to Orthodoxy while he was in college, so he wasn't home for all of that process. I have tried to share different books, doctrines with him. I reccommened that he listen to this series of podcasts, but I doubted he would take the time to do it. He has said that if he ever became a Christian, it would probably be Orthodox based on some of the things we've discussed, but he is making no moves that I can see toward Christ at all. So for Christmas, I converted them all to AAC so he could listen to them in his car, burned the discs (I think it took 9) and sent them to him. I haven't asked him if he's listened to them. I am a bear of very little brain, and I find that if I start talking too much about this to him, I am afraid I misrepresent things and make it all worse. That's why I try to listen over and over - if I can get his wonderful explanations totally imprinted in my brain, perhaps I can explain better. <br /><br />Another really good series of podcasts is: Orthodoxy and Heterodoxy by Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick. I've listened to each of those at least twice, too.<br /><br />Thanks again - and I covet your prayers for Dan and his family.Anam Carahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03960986859370967282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6546468339418636140.post-89507160228158639492010-03-02T22:07:24.287-05:002010-03-02T22:07:24.287-05:00Anam, I spent a long time this morning transcribin...Anam, I spent a long time this morning transcribing the podcast myself. And now I'm glad I did, for you.Anastasia Theodoridishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16092531121989260111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6546468339418636140.post-6477702716552843562010-03-02T18:56:04.019-05:002010-03-02T18:56:04.019-05:00I have listened to this entire series more than on...I have listened to this entire series more than once. But I am a visual rather than auditory learner. Where did you find the transcript? I'd love to get those for all his lectures so I could ponder them better.Anam Carahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03960986859370967282noreply@blogger.com